Monday, August 1, 2011

The Flat Earth Society

The world is filled with people who have all kinds of crazy ideas, theories and beliefs, most of them not as well thought out as mine, of course.  These people operate on the fringe.  You never seem to actually meet people who believe these things, and when you run them past most people you know, they tend to agree that they sound crazy.  Yet, these people must be out there.  Apparently, there are people who believe that alien lizards are secretly controlling the world.  Still others believe that the government is brainwashing you with messages hidden in bar codes.  But if I had to give out a prize for the absolutely craziest, stupidest, and most flat-out ignorant idea floating about out there, the award would go hands down and without a doubt to the The Flat Earth Society.

These people believe exactly what their name suggests.  They do the geocentric theory one better, and claim that the Earth is flat.  Their membership is small, naturally, but the fact that anyone at all believes this in this day and age is appalling and astonishing at the same time.  My favorite part about their belief is that while other crazy ideas focus on either one narrow aspect of reality or propose a shadowy phenomenon operating behind the scenes and only subtly apparent in the world, the Flat Earth concept represents a completely warped view of the universe.  As a bonus, if you click on the image below showing their model of their world which basically resembles a giant roulette wheel, you'll be able to read the text below the image providing bible verses which "condemn the globe theory."  You knew religion had to come into this sooner or later.

You might be thinking that that's an old picture, but regardless of that, rest assured this group is still quite active.  Some newer images I found also show that they haven't changed their basic model much over the years.  They still locate the Arctic, or what the rest of us in our ignorance designate as "The North Pole", at the center of their flat, disc shaped map.  Antarctica, on the other hand, is a snowy ring that circles the circumference of reality's outer limits.  I'm not sure how they account for the cold climates in these places under their model.  I didn't find any mention of that in my research, and I suspect that they never thought to address the issue.  At least they had the foresight to place the Antarctic on a steep slope.  If you're going to designate an edge to the world, you should at least have the decency to make it fairly inaccessible.  We wouldn't want people unwittingly stumbling into the void.  That was thoughtful of them.

Not all their arguments are based on scripture.  Oh, no.  They've actually got some "science" to back them up.  Their evidence includes such gems as pointing out that all the people and even our oceans would immediately fall off the world if it was round.  After all, you don't see oceans on the side of a beach ball.  Yes, they actually make this argument.  I don't suppose that there's any point in explaining how gravity works to these people or that there's no "down" in the cosmic sense.  Clearly it's beyond their comprehension that water falls off a ball because it's pulled there by the Earth's gravity, not because it's falling "down."  Likewise, they obviously don't understand that things wouldn't fall off the Earth simply because maps of the solar system depict things facing certain directions.  The empty space beyond The South Pole isn't "below" or "under" the Earth anymore than the space is "above" The North Pole.  If we favored "overhead" depictions of the solar system, would they be scoffing that the Earth would fall into the sun?  This is the kind of idiocy that makes witch trials sound downright sensible.

The motion of a round Earth is also problematic for them.  They argue that we would be thrown out into space as we rounded the celestial corner.  This one is a little more subtle.  If the first argument employed a toddler's logic, then this one at least employs a ten year old's logic. Granted it's a ten year old that's had a large rusty spike driven through the comprehension centers of the brain, but at least it suggests a basic understanding of inertia and motion.  The problem is that these concepts are completely misapplied.  For one thing, inertia pulls on the occupant of a swerving car because the car is deviating suddenly from a straight path and there's a struggle between the occupant being compelled to continue on that path, and the pull from the sudden shift in direction.  The Earth moves in an elliptical orbit.  None of its turns are a sudden deviation from a straight path.  Plus, once again there's the play of the Earth's gravity in this and the fact that it can't be transposed to some arbitrary place below the Earth and...but why am I even trying to refute this nonsense?

The funny thing about these arguments is that they're based in The Flat Earth Society's own idiotic misunderstanding of science.  It would be one thing if they had a coherent understanding of the heliocentric model and they were able to stand toe for toe against it.  As it is, they've constructed a straw man even more brainless than the Scarecrow himself.  They see gravity as merely something that makes things fall downward, and under this view a round Earth is unfathomable to them.  They're not engaged in a battle with science, but rather with their own gross ignorance of it.

Wikipedia reports that at the close of the last century, there were at least 3,000 members of the society.  Again, it's a small minority, but they are out there.  Think about that the next time you're standing in a long line at the grocery store.  There could be someone in that line with you that actually believes this garbage.  It shouldn't be hard to spot them.  Look for the drool on the front of their shirt.             

21 comments:

  1. I, myself, have always felt like I were clinging to the edge of the world, with the Earth's oceans cascading just over the top of me down into the kiddie pool of unreasonable thoughts, clutching the end of it all and feeling my fingers begin to stiffen and slip. Or was that sanity? Either way, has any of these radicals explained how water manages to stay put, or is this due to the world's rainfall making its way slowly across the lands towards the waterfall of stupidity?

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  2. Are you asking how the giant roulette wheel doesn't fill up like a pot left under a dripping faucet and drown us all? I think we'll have to put that on the list of things they haven't considered. Perhaps the world has a small leak somewhere, a "waterfall of stupidity", that drains off just the perfect amount, placed by the infinite foresight of the Creator. Amen.

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  3. I love the way that map shows the earth curving up in the middle and down and then up again. I'd like to see the science on that one. "Hmm... I put water in this here bowl but it just lays there flat. How does yours curve like that?"

    Then again I know people even today who believe that the entire earth was created in just six days by one entity. And that we are all the descendants of just two people. They too, claim to have "facts" to back this up but I have yet to see any concrete evidence.

    Isn't that just silly.

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  4. Hey, I know a couple of people like that too. Small world, ain't it?

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  5. This tickled me but then I can't laugh too hard, I might fall off the face of the earth. OOps no that would just be the Australians and Kiwi's but then again not if their theory is correct. So we're all safe - still laughing :D

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  6. I guess we'll ALL just have to hold on tight ;)

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  7. I like the 'waterfall of stupidity' idea...maybe there's a secret sinkhole somewhere...

    Looking at the map, I am kinda curious how Australia and New Zealand aren't permanently under water? I guess they don't bother to explain that one, either.

    Fun post...thanks for the smiles!

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  8. Yes, their "flat" Earth doesn't look very flat does it, at least not in that map. It looks more undulating or convex. I'm not sure what their purpose was in that, but it seems to contradict the whole point of their ridiculous theory.

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  9. I am very much of skeptic when it comes to new knowledge. With regards to the claims of the people you mention in your post, I would have considered their ideas if it weren't for the fact that ships as they move away in the distance they disappear, it is as if they gradually get swallowed up by the horizon. If the world were flat, ships would never disappear.

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  10. When I was a kid, we went to the science museum. There was one exhibit where they had a bunch pins arranged in a circle with a pendulum swinging on a rope among them. If you stood there watching long enough, you'd see the pendulum knock over all the pins even though it was only swinging back and forth in a straight arc. This was because the Earth, the round Earth, was turning under the pendulum.

    There are lots of ways to prove the round Earth even in common every day experience, let alone satellite photos and astronauts.

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  11. So I have several rocks from the edge of the world that my great great grandfather Col. Titus McSlander brought back from his expedition back in the late 1800's. Very rare and very valuable. Do I hear any bids?

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  12. I'll trade you for some ocean front property in Arizona.

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  13. That pendulum with the pins trick is a hoax foisted upon gullible school children. What they don't tell you is that the museum itself is spinning. As for ships disappearing, well, when things are far away they are hard to see. You can take the word of "learned" scientists and possibly fake pictures and "experiments" but I will believe what my senses tell me. And the world seems pretty flat to me.

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  14. See. This is why we need the Doug Stephens perspective. The sad thing is, though, the spinning museum thing occurred to me as well. I think we both need a lot of help.

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  15. First, I don't for a moment believe that any of the flat earth society members actually believe the theory.

    Second, just as I don't believe that they really believe what they say they believe, I also don't believe that you, Bryan, believe that they believe what they say they believe.

    I was selected once as a member of an inter-school debating competition, and invited to suggest a topic. I proposed Flat Earth, but it wasn't considered suitable. I was however allowed to refer to it briefly in my speech, & say I was a believer - as a kind of comic turn, for my role was to second the main motion (whatever it was). So I got familiar with the arguments and they seemed fun.

    It's fun for some people to be in a minority, holding out against all the theories that everyone else takes for granted. there are those who believe that the American moon landings were faked, and that the CIA organized 9/11 for political purposes.

    And there are still believers in crop circles even though they have been explained as fakes.

    Those people's idea of fun is not, I hasten to add, mine.

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  16. You know, it's funny you say that, because a part of my has actually wondered whether the whole thing isn't some elaborate hoax. Maybe there really is no Flat Earth Society after all. Their arguments are so over-the-top dumb, it's hard to tell if it isn't all a big joke. But then again, you've seen some of the people around....

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  17. Oh, and the latest news is that the crop circles were stoned Wallabies ;)

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  18. I almost wish I meet one of these people one day...

    But that wouldn't be much fun. You can't reason with an idiot.

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  19. Yes, there is definitely a certain threshold beyond which it's pointless to argue. This lies way below that threshold.

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  20. Maybe Terry Pratchett is on to something with his Discworld books. There's a lot of convincing detail in those things.

    (Late comment, I know. I've got a lot of catch up reading to do here.)

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  21. That's the second time someone has mentioned those books. Now I'm looking them up.

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