According to Christianity, long before the foundation of the universe was laid and the seeds of physical existence sown, there was a war in Heaven. The archangel Lucifer led a revolt against God. As punishment for this attempt to overthrow him, God cast Lucifer into Hell along with all the angels who followed him. The question has often been asked: Why didn't God simply destroy Lucifer? Why allow him to exist and eventually come to corrupt and cause trouble for mankind?
Well, to look at the story as a simple mythology, the obvious answer would be that the story represents the origin of Evil and its adversarial relationship with Good. It is a cautionary tale of envy, pride, and defiance. The story is not constructed around any sort of final, complete victory over evil, because the conflict is meant to be an on-going one. The Devil is allowed to persist in the tale out of a certain necessity, because the story is told in retrospect. War, disease, pain, and death are all still with us. Evil still exists, and its agencies are still at large, engineering sorrow and disaster all over the world. The story is not an ending but a beginning, with the battle lines drawn and the world itself at stake.
But this sort of answer only works if you treat the story as a fictional one, and it considers the question above as a matter of plot-construction. It steps outside the reality of the story. It deals not with the action on stage, but instead with the scaffolding that supports the stage. It doesn't really address the problem of why God didn't destroy the Devil. It merely points out that you bought a ticket for four-hour play, and so the main conflict can't be resolved in the opening act. Needless to say, this answer is an unsatisfying one for those who take the story literally, those who believe this didn't take place on a stage, but in the open air of reality. Aside from that, it only confesses the necessity of the plot hole. It does nothing to fix it.
Now, I'm not here to debate the literal truth of the story. I can't say that I've reached the point in my life or my consideration of these issues to make any sort of claim one way or the other. These things, of course, go far beyond the scope of the matter at hand, and hopefully I'll be able to get into these things gradually down the road and reach some kind of satisfying conclusions. For the time being, I don't mean to offend or mislead anyone about where I stand on these issues. All I can say is that I'm still in the process of working these things out myself. For now, I only wish to make a hypothetical proposition concerning the problem above; a proposition that might even lead to some kind of real truth one way or the other.
So, the question was: Why didn't God destroy Lucifer and his followers? I thought about this for a long time, and then it hit me...maybe he did destroy them. Maybe the idea of being "cast out of Heaven" is really a metaphor for annihilation. But the problem is that destroying them created another problem. It created a void in existence. Prior to this God had only created. He had made Heaven and all the angels in glorious perfection. Then this insurrection took place, and it had to be dealt with. Out of necessity, God was driven to do something he had never done before, destroy. This would have an unavoidable side-effect. For the first time, something that was would be no more. For the first time, there would be a nothingness. This nothingness would come to haunt existence, like an inexhaustible vacuum threatening to draw everything into its own annihilation. Satan, the adversary, is the negation of Lucifer. He is the nothingness, the void, the hole in existence that was caused when Lucifer was destroyed. His whole problem is that he doesn't exist. He lurks about reality, trying to consume it and give himself substance. He wants to exist again, even if it means destroying everything in the process.
There is something in the natural universe that provides an excellent example of the process at work here, the black hole. When a star dies it collapses in on itself. In scientific terms it condenses to an infinitely diminished point of overwhelming gravity. This gravity draws everything that comes near it, even light, into it. In effect, it is the void created in the absence of the star. Relativity says that gravity is the manifestation of mass warping space, a curvature drawing matter in. The black hole takes this to its extreme. It's more than a curvature; it's a hole sucking things into the void.
These black holes pose a problem, known to scientists as the Information Paradox. The Law of Information basically states that information can not be destroyed. If you burn a log in the fire, even though the log is consumed, the information of that log still exists and could conceivably be reconstructed on the quantum level from the ashes, the fire, and heat. Black holes seem to violate this law. When they consume something, the information it was composed of seems to be destroyed completely. But this impossible. The information must persist in some form or another. Scientists have proposed various solutions to this problem, but they're still working on it.
Likewise, God's initial act of destruction caused its own paradox. Lucifer and his followers could be annihilated, but the fact of this annihilation could not be erased. The information of their existence could not be destroyed altogether. It was merely inverted into nothingness, consumed like matter in a black hole, but impossible to obliterate completely. An afterimage of their existence remained, like a lingering shadow of a light. This caused a small crack in the fabric of existence, a tiny seed of corruption. It was a problem that had to be solved or it would eventually threaten to undo everything.
So here we are again at the beginning, and maybe we've gained a fresh start on the story. But it's only a start. I plan to go much further with this down the road. For me, this idea, starting as it does with the premise that God was driven out of necessity to create an unavoidable problem that had to be solved, provides a possibility to shed a light on some of the conundrums of Christianity. It gives a reason why there's still evil in the world. It provides a possible driving motive to the overall divine plan and a meaning to the purpose of our existence. The universe, rather than being created on a capricious whim, might play a part in the solution to this problem. The fall of man, which I touched on in an earlier post might not be just a regrettable misfortune, but instead an absolutely essential piece of the puzzle. But these are all matters for future posts. As I said, this is just a beginning.
Forgive me if I fail to pass on the scientific complexity and celestial quagmire your post has, but I tend to relate God and all things godly into the bucket of Can Not nor Will Not ever be understood by man. Just storied.
ReplyDeletePartly because in order to understand it, you must also be able to grasp unseen straws and let go of your logical mind to assume that a spiritual presense is in there. You have to swallow the horse pill of doubt and drink it down with plenty of holy water in order to look beyond that which we can explain or theorize and accept what good and evil is.
I think this is one of the many reasons religion in all of its grand nievity, also warns its congregation that you must not question God, or those who vessel his Word by way of mouth and written word. You have an excellent start to a great story you are weaving, just as those before you had thousands of years ago.
Which is where faith comes in. Faith, like God and the likes relies on hope, which relies on the will of people to carry on. They are the ingrediants of eternal life. Faith and Hope in God. And on a personal level these things can amass great feats in people, but then some asshole has to go and apply rules to this and tweak the meaning a little by saying, for example, God wants us to (fill in the blank with your own hopes and faith in things) and then preach it...religiously.
The other problem to this grand scheme is the constant "Ok. If God is, who made God? And whoever that is or whatever that is...who made that? Adversely, that is also why God has such reach and influence in the world. It's the one thing that cannot be explained fully. Sure, there are other things on Earth we cannot explained, but that is due to not yet reaching those depths, which might also mean we could discover the origins of God, but not any time soon and we are far more likely to blow up the planet before blowing up the blogshpere with proof of His existence.
Your thinktank is very entertaining.
Wow, that's quite a mouthful. I tend to agree with what you're saying. As a child, I grew up in a religious home, so I'm well aware of the inherent dangers involved when people make blanket claims of fact in the absence of evidence or reason. That's why I tried to preface my remarks by pointing out that I'm not sure myself what I believe. I doubt that I'll ever reach any level of absolutely certainty on the matter, and I can't claim even to myself to KNOW things that I don't. I could choose to take a leap of faith, but at the same time, I can't pretend that my own doubts don't exist. I can't just close my eyes and shut off my mind, and pretend that there are questions I don't have the answers to and things about Christianity that just plain don't make sense to me at this point. I couldn't do this even I wanted to.
ReplyDeleteNo, this is all just speculation for the sake of speculation. Do I think there is a literal Devil who literally made war with a literal God in a literal Heaven? Probably not. But again, what do I know? It hards to even grasp the nature of the things under consideration. What is God? What is Heaven? What is the Devil? We debate the existence of things without even a clear definition or understanding of what we're talking about.
Besides, whether any of it's literally true of not: 1.) that doesn't mean there can't be some kind of truth and meaning to be found in the story and 2.) I still find the mythology an interesting subject to think and theorize about, apart from just the question of whether it's true or not. That's not always the most important thing. At least, it's not always the only thing.
Agreed. The aspect of there not being a God is just as thrilling a topic of there being one. Counter the claim as such. There is a God and low and behold, the catholics got it right. There is a God and he sent his only Son to Earth to be sacrificed and yada yada, you've heard the story.
ReplyDeleteNow, consider the rules tied into this God. How he is a loving God, yet a jealous God who will strike you down if you were to say...sacrifice goats in the name of the Dark Prince. BUT! least not forget, he is a forgiving God, therefore, sin as you might, say your sorry at the moment of your death and all is well in the kingdom of heaven. If not, there is always purgatory to mellow out in for a few milinia to get your prayer cred from those who trespass against us-The good guys.
This is the fallable poke in the eye for me, being baptised as a catholic. I was with you up until the point you told me the same God I dig also happens to allow those who are sorry, Dahmer, Manson (although he is pretty set for hell, I think), and countless priest who pleasure themseleves to young altar boys. These guys get to hang out in the same place I lived a life of servitude and worship and treating my fellow man with kindness and love to get there? I am not so happy about this placed called heaven anymoe. What happened to the jealous god who slapped me with those 10 commandments?
You should see the number of random post people I know on Facebook leave daily with them quotes from those diciples everyone seems to read about. That being said, I believe in a God or *the* god. I am shady on the detail, but I tend to apply logic where needed and find that yes, there are questions that suggest nothing, but there is so much proof around us that suggest more than my small minded ADD can concentrate. BUt I also know better than to believe father Ted or pastor Steve or high pooba Yogi Bear. Life, as you point out in your post, makes us incredible things that tend to do more harm than good, suggesting something is out there...it's just a human saw the massive power in bending God to his favor and the gold mine in which religion offers those who are willing to *dig* for it.